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Posted: 19 November 2008 08:35 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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I think the recent documentary on Rhydian shown on Welsh TV, gives us some insight into how Leon is being handled by Syco…

Simon wanted Rhydian to win XF, he was bitterly disappointed that he did not, that’s why he offered Rhydian a £1m contract and has gone to great expense on his album.If you want proof -

http://www.itvlocal.com/wales/programmes/

So Simon has a winner he doesn’t want but he has to go through the motions of support. My thread re Leons CIM performance I mentioned - lack of gigging by Leon, throwing him onto first XF show in the context of no recent performance - wishing he’d perform badly maybe? the Peter Kaye single out the same week as Leons and the Ch 4 programme was made in the XF studio - Simons support for PKs project which effectively ridiculed the winner.

My view is that Simon is doing just enough to insure no major comeback re his lack of support for Leon..he can then blame the public for not buying the album or not buying into the winner, as in his eyes, the wrong person won.  Watch him support Rhydian this weekend.

I still love Leons album, it may have been simply produced but I love what they came up with...love his voice.I just now feel a light bulb has gone on in my head, that as always Simon gets his own way and he has the power to insure failure and success (to sone degree) in the record industry.

The thing with Simon, if he cares about you he’ll move heaven and earth for you as an artist. I did wonder why Dannii made that odd statement after Leon performed on XF a few weeks back..’Simon didn’t want Leon in the competition last year’...very odd to say that infront of Simon on national TV and Leons big performance night...or maybe she was just letting us gain an insight to the challenge Leon faces.

The good news is that Right Now is up to 42 in the midweeks and Creative has been playlisted C on Radio 2.

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Posted: 19 November 2008 09:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Queen Maeve - 19 November 2008 08:35 PM

I think the recent documentary on Rhydian shown on Welsh TV, gives us some insight into how Leon is being handled by Syco…

Simon wanted Rhydian to win XF, he was bitterly disappointed that he did not, that’s why he offered Rhydian a £1m contract and has gone to great expense on his album.If you want proof -

http://www.itvlocal.com/wales/programmes/

So Simon has a winner he doesn’t want but he has to go through the motions of support. My thread re Leons CIM performance I mentioned - lack of gigging by Leon, throwing him onto first XF show in the context of no recent performance - wishing he’d perform badly maybe? the Peter Kaye single out the same week as Leons and the Ch 4 programme was made in the XF studio - Simons support for PKs project which effectively ridiculed the winner.

My view is that Simon is doing just enough to insure no major comeback re his lack of support for Leon..he can then blame the public for not buying the album or not buying into the winner, as in his eyes, the wrong person won.  Watch him support Rhydian this weekend.

I still love Leons album, it may have been simply produced but I love what they came up with...love his voice.I just now feel a light bulb has gone on in my head, that as always Simon gets his own way and he has the power to insure failure and success (to sone degree) in the record industry.

The thing with Simon, if he cares about you he’ll move heaven and earth for you as an artist. I did wonder why Dannii made that odd statement after Leon performed on XF a few weeks back..’Simon didn’t want Leon in the competition last year’...very odd to say that infront of Simon on national TV and Leons big performance night...or maybe she was just letting us gain an insight to the challenge Leon faces.

The good news is that Right Now is up to 42 in the midweeks and Creative has been playlisted C on Radio 2.

Excellent post, QM. It’s all making sense now.

Because of what Simon Cowell wanted, Leon has this to contend with. Leon will know about this now....he can’t not know. How will he feel? No bliddy wonder he was a nervous wreck the night of the first XF this year. Singing in front of him.

I have no respect for SC or LW (have never liked that troll).

Here’s the deal. You vote and Simon ignores it. He promotes ‘someone else’ because HE liked him better. Why vote now? Whatever happens....Simon will have whomsoever HE likes up far enough in the comp to get a deal and he’ll discard who YOU choose.

That is the LAST I will ever vote in the XF. Even if my fave wins...there is no guarantee they will get the best treatment.

You tell me why someone with the voice and the talent of Leon Jackson isn’t crushing the charts? Does Simon’s pathetic admiration of Rhydian have anything to do with it?

I’m disillusioned and disgusted. I hope Leon can get as far away from that man, as quickly as he can.

If I were Leon Jackson....I’d get out of the contract asap and get myself signed with someone else. Oh...and I’d spill as much of this as I could without comeback. wink But no....our Leon’s far too bliddy decent for that.

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Posted: 19 November 2008 09:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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i agree with you. i loathe his record company he’d be better off walking out on them and getting a new label. it’s as though his label are trying to make him as bad as possible as though they’re trying to make his whole career into a joke. it’s so unfair. even the messages from his label in the news section are overly cheesy as if they’re mocking him. i hate his record company he deserves so much better.

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Posted: 19 November 2008 09:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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xJess luvs Leonx - 19 November 2008 09:09 PM

i agree with you. i loathe his record company he’d be better off walking out on them and getting a new label. it’s as though his label are trying to make him as bad as possible as though they’re trying to make his whole career into a joke. it’s so unfair. even the messages from his label in the news section are overly cheesy as if they’re mocking him. i hate his record company he deserves so much better.

I think the sooner Leon can get away from Syco...the better. :-(

I am sooo gutted for Leon about this. As I said, I am never voting on XF again. It means NOTHING.

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Posted: 19 November 2008 09:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Excellent post, Queen Maeve. It sums up perfectly what many of us Leon fans are thinking smile

Not sure that I can add much more to what you’ve said.

Just that. To those concerned: As fans, we care about Leon and will support him and fight for him.

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Posted: 19 November 2008 09:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Queen Maeve - 19 November 2008 08:35 PM

I think the recent documentary on Rhydian shown on Welsh TV, gives us some insight into how Leon is being handled by Syco…

Simon wanted Rhydian to win XF, he was bitterly disappointed that he did not, that’s why he offered Rhydian a £1m contract and has gone to great expense on his album.If you want proof -

http://www.itvlocal.com/wales/programmes/

So Simon has a winner he doesn’t want but he has to go through the motions of support. My thread re Leons CIM performance I mentioned - lack of gigging by Leon, throwing him onto first XF show in the context of no recent performance - wishing he’d perform badly maybe? the Peter Kaye single out the same week as Leons and the Ch 4 programme was made in the XF studio - Simons support for PKs project which effectively ridiculed the winner.

My view is that Simon is doing just enough to insure no major comeback re his lack of support for Leon..he can then blame the public for not buying the album or not buying into the winner, as in his eyes, the wrong person won.  Watch him support Rhydian this weekend.

I still love Leons album, it may have been simply produced but I love what they came up with...love his voice.I just now feel a light bulb has gone on in my head, that as always Simon gets his own way and he has the power to insure failure and success (to sone degree) in the record industry.

The thing with Simon, if he cares about you he’ll move heaven and earth for you as an artist. I did wonder why Dannii made that odd statement after Leon performed on XF a few weeks back..’Simon didn’t want Leon in the competition last year’...very odd to say that infront of Simon on national TV and Leons big performance night...or maybe she was just letting us gain an insight to the challenge Leon faces.

The good news is that Right Now is up to 42 in the midweeks and Creative has been playlisted C on Radio 2.

Excellent post, QM. It’s all making sense now.

Because of what Simon Cowell wanted, Leon has this to contend with. Leon will know about this now....he can’t not know. How will he feel? No bliddy wonder he was a nervous wreck the night of the first XF this year. Singing in front of him.

I have no respect for SC or LW (have never liked that troll).

Here’s the deal. You vote and Simon ignores it. He promotes ‘someone else’ because HE liked him better. Why vote now? Whatever happens....Simon will have whomsoever HE likes up far enough in the comp to get a deal and he’ll discard who YOU choose.

That is the LAST I will ever vote in the XF. Even if my fave wins...there is no guarantee they will get the best treatment.

You tell me why someone with the voice and the talent of Leon Jackson isn’t crushing the charts? Does Simon’s pathetic admiration of Rhydian have anything to do with it?

I’m disillusioned and disgusted. I hope Leon can get as far away from that man, as quickly as he can.

If I were Leon Jackson....I’d get out of the contract asap and get myself signed with someone else. Oh...and I’d spill as much of this as I could without comeback. wink But no....our Leon’s far too bliddy decent for that.

i agree with that too. i can’t even imagine how upset Leon must be feeling. he was actually less nervous during the x factor than after. why? because simon is trying to make him look like an idiot with no talent which is SO not true! if i was Leon i would feel nervous and small and incignificant around simon if he was treating me like that. i hate simon so much i seriously and deeply would advise Leon to get a new label. I think he should get michael buble’s label because at least they admire Leon’s style of voice and talent and i’m sure they will make him a huge star.

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Posted: 19 November 2008 09:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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Bublé’s label would be great. grin

For now, as Cute Chick says....Leon needs to know that he has support in us. And...any label looking at signing him need to know that decent promotion will make a great career. grin

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Posted: 19 November 2008 09:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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I like to think I spot talent...for me it’s a tone in the voice..Leon has always had that ‘something something’...he needs people to nurture and develop him, he’s 19 and has potential to be as good as Bublé, Simon loss if he cann’t be bothered.

I hope Leon digs deep and just makes it his goal to confound his doubters.

I want RN to be a Platinum album (300k sales), and with the right advert and promo in the next few weeks it could lift sales........but are Syco going to give him a fighting chance?

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Posted: 19 November 2008 09:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Oh QM, what a sad and poignant post.

Do you really think it is that bad? I believe that Simon was dissapointed in Leon as the winner, but then he knows the format of the show and the winner could be someone he isn’t supportive of. The thing is Leon does have star quality in bucket loads, look at his performance on Children in Need, he oozes warmth and his voice was stunning.

I for one am fed up of the constant ‘Leona’syndrome’, no contender after can seem to get past this barrier. Simon holds her up to the world as an example of how his show can find someone amazing, but Leon is fantastic. He has personality (something Leona is lacking), a voice to die for and looks that have us all in a spin!

I see a real fondess from Peter Gordeno and Leon’s day to day management towards Leon, can this move him forward within Syco?
Is it inevitable he will have to leave? I do hope he can find a lable to support and nuture him in the long run if this is the case. If he is this good at 19 think what he could be like at 25!
What as fans can we do to support Leon?

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Posted: 19 November 2008 09:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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Great post Queen Maeve. That really sums up what I and other Leon fans have been thinking for a while now. Already knew that winning doesn’t really mean anything as Simon will sign who he wants anyway.

The cards are well and truly on the table now and I don’t trust Syco with Leon’s career. Completely agree with the posters who suggest that Leon should sign with another label. He deserves better.

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Posted: 19 November 2008 09:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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Leon is being treated extremely unfairly by the people who he has no choice but to depend on. You’d think that if anything, they’d at least give him praise for all of his hard work. As the winner, he should be treated as the other rightful winners were, not Rhydian. Yes, Rhydian is a very talented man & I wish him a lot of success but it’s about time they get their supposed priorities right, as Rhydian seems to be getting all of the treatment suited for an X Factor winner. hmmm

And you’re completely right, it doesn’t matter who you vote for because when Simon spots a star, he makes sure he gets his money out them. But hey, that’s what happens when favouritism (i.e. whoever appears to be capable of earning them the big bucks) comes into play.

But as much as I’d love to see Leon isolating Syco, like I said, he is dependent on them right now. Despite the fact that he’ll be on at least a 1 album contract to release all of his singles from this album under Syco, he’s not yet successful enough & most likely hasn’t reached a stable enough stage in his career to go it alone & try to find another record company who will take him on without stumbling backwards (especially because of where his success stemmed from).

Simon may allow himself to violate the idea that the winner of the X Factor recieves all of the support that he & his record company can offer but Leon has no say in this right now because the fact the Leon is is under Simon Cowell & Syco’s wing is written on conract & the only way Leon could get away from it if he decided to would be if they let go of him. By the looks of it though, I don’t think that will happen, considering his single & album sales.

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Posted: 19 November 2008 10:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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Agree with what everyone has written wholeheartedly. Though I am a newbie to the board in terms of posting,(I have been a fan since the very beginning), I have regularly visited to catch up on all the Leon news but didn’t know when to start posting.
Leon seems quite vulnerable at the moment and I want him to know all his fans admire and support him!
There does not seem any point in winning the copetition if the winner is left in a more vulnerable position and is less supported than the two runners up. Even Same Difference have a regular blog on the X factor forum!! I feel really disapointed in the whole process. sick

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Steffie - 19 November 2008 09:55 PM

Simon may allow himself to violate the idea that the winner of the X Factor recieves all of the support that he & his record company can offer but Leon has no say in this right now because the fact the Leon is is under Simon Cowell & Syco’s wing is written on conract & the only way Leon could get away from it if he decided to would be if they let go of him. By the looks of it though, I don’t think that will happen, considering his single & album sales.

It’s early days I guess and who knows what Xmas could bring and airplay for Creative. For many artists who write their own albums, another bite of the cherry with 100k album sales would be possible.So far leon is on about 60k album sales, not stella stuff, but he could end up with 200k...would that be enough for Syco/SBMG? The whole sales market is different at the moment,I mean IL Divo only sold 68k last week, when 2 years ago they sold 155k for first week.

Anyway, as you say Leon has no say nor is he in a strong bargaining position...he needs a champion, someone fighting his corner. 7 years ago , a certain Mr Will Young with the support of Simon Fuller moved away from Syco and Simon Cowell, moving to RCA another Sony label...I am not sure Leon will get that opportunity...maybe he needs to look closer to home..or maybe Michael Bublé can put a word in at Warner bros.

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Posted: 19 November 2008 10:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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I am thankful that Leon has his friends (Andy and Emily...and probably others, whose names we don’t know) and his family through this.

I just hope that Leon realises that this is about Simon Cowell’s rotten taste in music. Leon IS a star and he has an outstanding voice. Leon needs to hold on to that.

Something in me (you know....the bit that tells you Leon is clever....), says that Leon will play this game very diplomatically.

As for Simon....no wonder Terri left you.

Soz....I just had to say something there. Childish, I know.

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Posted: 19 November 2008 10:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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I think Buble would be an excellent champion and there is already warm support for Leon over on the official Buble forum. I think if Creative can reach top 5 and increase album sales upto 100k then Leon has a chance. I would like to see some more tv advertising for ‘Right Now’ and a third single release (Stargazing) in February. I for one though, cannot watch X factor on Saturday to see Rhydian praised and championed. It would leave a nasty taste! I wish Rhydian well and would never diss him just because of Simon’s favouritism but I won’t stand by and let Leon be second best rolleyes

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Queen Maeve - 19 November 2008 10:10 PM
Steffie - 19 November 2008 09:55 PM

Simon may allow himself to violate the idea that the winner of the X Factor recieves all of the support that he & his record company can offer but Leon has no say in this right now because the fact the Leon is is under Simon Cowell & Syco’s wing is written on conract & the only way Leon could get away from it if he decided to would be if they let go of him. By the looks of it though, I don’t think that will happen, considering his single & album sales.

It’s early days I guess and who knows what Xmas could bring and airplay for Creative. For many artists who write their own albums, another bite of the cherry with 100k album sales would be possible.So far leon is on about 60k album sales, not stella stuff, but he could end up with 200k...would that be enough for Syco/SBMG? The whole sales market is different at the moment,I mean IL Divo only sold 68k last week, when 2 years ago they sold 155k for first week.

Anyway, as you say Leon has no say nor is he in a strong bargaining position...he needs a champion, someone fighting his corner. 7 years ago , a certain Mr Will Young with the support of Simon Fuller moved away from Syco and Simon Cowell, moving to RCA another Sony label...I am not sure Leon will get that opportunity...maybe he needs to look closer to home..or maybe Michael Bublé can put a word in at Warner bros.

Yeah, that’s what I’m saying though. I think you might have picked me up wrong cause the point I was making was that his sales have already been too good for them to want to drop him yet. But then again, it’s probably unpredictable as you’d think that good sales would make them want to push him even further yet they don’t seem to be doing that :\

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